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    Pravus' Section Moderator

    Hello and good evening.

    All admins have come together to discuss about your current Moderator: Carlos. We believe he has proven himself not to be responsible enough to carry the burden of being Moderator of Pravus' section. We hereby ask you, The members of Pravus, to appoint a new candidate who is suitable for the job.

    All Pravus members can appoint someone to replace Carlos in the action section, an appropiate thread will be opened for the occasion, so stay tuned!

    Thank you for understanding.

    The RakionHQ Admin Team
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    ---------- Post added at 11:06 ---------- Previous post was at 21:57 ----------

    This is TheFluffy speaking,

    Apologies, as only the Staff can reply in Action Request.
    You're free to make a thread of your own, of course.
    Please let one member do the request on Pravus' behalf.

    Thanks
    Last edited by TheFluffy; 11-01-2012 at 10:06.


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    i wanted to stay out of this but.. this is kinda ridiculous.

    foam takes care of our lose/win ratio he asks for every cw so he can accurately update it.
    he corrects title, adds missing screenshots and i think he takes pride in what he does hes very strict about these things
    appoint someone else as mod of our section and the whole thing will just turn into a mess, with missing CWs etc

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    also we cant post in action request section.

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    Good morning Kite,

    I think your concerns are of no need. So please just slow down. 8)
    1. First of all, how come you can't post anything in the Action Request? Are you the only one with this problem? Everyone is supposed to be able to make an action request.
    2. You don't have to be Moderator to post the win/lose-ration. It's just a post anyone could make. Even a member of another clan can post it.
    3. Every Pravus member can post (missing) clanwars in your section, so of course Carlos will still be able to do that.
    4. Mod powers are about modifying/editing post, closing threads, deleting messages and more things of this sort. Those are the powers and responsibilities which the admins decided to entrust to someone else in your clan. You're free to choose who, of course.
    5. You're right about editing titles and editing posts for screenshots, but I don't think you need a rare talent to do this. If Carlos likes this so much, then he can make a post in the concerning thread and for example say: "It's 2012, not 2011". Then the Moderator can edit this. I personally don't see the problem here either.

    Hopefully you're now well informed.

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    1. Maybe it's just me but i don't have the privilege the reply to a topic in action request, i can make a new topic in it though.2. Yes I understand it's just a regular post everyone can make, but will they? have you seen anyone else updating our win/lose rate apart from Foam?3. Yes.4. I understand what mods can do.5. Sure we don't need a rare talent but like i said Foam is very strict about these things, someone else would just be very lax and slack off (I know I would). Foam takes pride in being in pravus so he wants to show that by keeping our section updated and organised.We could make a regular post and ask you to edit something, but would it not be much faster if foam could do it directly.Also I think you should atleast wait until Foam is unbanned so he can defend his case.

    ---------- Post added at 10:41 ---------- Previous post was at 10:39 ----------

    im sorry my post turned into such a mess, im at my intern and for some reason it didnt register my enters, tried to edit but it doesnt save.

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    I agree to be honest. Carlos is the most organised/active one out of any of us and is the one who thinks with a clear head.

    He did one thing wrong (although I don't know the details) and got banned for it, and you decide to take his mod powers away from our section? That's ridiculous. You and me both know Carlos is a stand up guy, he's not a hot head and he's shown a long history of being a great mod for our section. He keeps things uptodate, clean and kicks our asses for spamming in sections. If anyone else is put incharge it'll be chaos. Carlos shows better judgement than most people. So, yeah, I disagree wholly with this.

    Plus, no one has powers to post in a topic in action request, people only have powers to create a topic. It was something that was changed when people used to spam in other people's action requests.

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    @Kite and Miz:

    1. Yes, Miz.. I just realized that. I edited Roy's post! Go check it out.
    2. Kite, I meant to say Carlos can still post the win/lose-ratio. It's not the question if someone else should do it!
    3. Yes.
    4. Great.
    5. Both Miz and you seem to camouflage the fact that he abused his powers. This isn't just a matter of deleting someone's post because you don't like it, or other abuse of this kind. It's actually deleting an admin warning, after a pretty harsh post towards the admins. You can say he's not a hot head, but apparently he does let his emotions interfere with his powers. Let's not discuss the subject about Carlos' liability again. Legend didn't close the thread for nothing.

    Please, let's not make this more difficult than it is. It's just a simple task of keeping an eye on your Section, which doesn't require great heroic deeds. Pravus has in my opinion enough decent members to be able to take over this simple job. Whether the rest of Pravus' members would be too lazy isn't any of our concern. I hope you understand this.
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    You're implying one mistake makes any sort of statement towards someones reliability and attitude.

    Carlos has obeyed the rules for years since he joined. He's never gotten into a flame war, he's never even spammed. When Carlos speaks, he thinks about what he says and says it in a calm manner. If you're suggesting he lets his emotions rule him, then you're thinking of a different person. We're not 'camouflaging' that he's broken the rules, we're saying he's never done it in the past and we don't think one mistake should cost him his powers.

    Unless you're suggesting that if you've been banned/broken the rules in the past, you shouldn't have powers on the forum?

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    I'm with Miz. Carlos don't deserve this. ALL of us have been banned for differents reassons, questioning the authority and their judgment.
    Seriously, IMO, this is going too far.. Can you just forget about this? Wait till Carlos is back, and then, if he strikes again, make a decision?
    Fluffy, Legend and Ray has been banned in the past, most of the times for spamming. Roy's inactivity it's becouse he did something wrong.
    I'm not atacking you, really, you should know I really respect all of you, and we always had a nice relationship.
    Since I'm not playing Rakion anymore, I see things differently.Of course, I can get mad becouse someone deletes my awesome post, but in one day,
    I will forget about it.
    But now, as a member of this forum (don't look at my colour) I see you ain't making a good decision.. C'mon, just let it go

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFluffy View Post
    @Kite and Miz:
    2. Kite, I meant to say Carlos can still post the win/lose-ratio. It's not the question if someone else should do it!
    5. Both Miz and you seem to camouflage the fact that he abused his powers. This isn't just a matter of deleting someone's post because you don't like it, or other abuse of this kind. It's actually deleting an admin warning, after a pretty harsh post towards the admins. You can say he's not a hot head, but apparently he does let his emotions interfere with his powers. Let's not discuss the subject about Carlos' liability again. Legend didn't close the thread for nothing.
    Please, let's not make this more difficult than it is. It's just a simple task of keeping an eye on your Section, which doesn't require great heroic deeds. Pravus has in my opinion enough decent members to be able to take over this simple job. Whether the rest of Pravus' members would be too lazy isn't any of our concern. I hope you understand this.
    2. yea he still can but foam also updates the first post each time and thats made by piper, sure if someone else becomes mods he can edit it, but why split the work.
    5. i didnt try to camouflag anything, i didnt read what happened in the deleted post.
    anyways my point stands i think foam should remain a mod and you should atleast wait with this until foam is unbanned so he can contribute something to this discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizchievous View Post
    Unless you're suggesting that if you've been banned/broken the rules in the past, you shouldn't have powers on the forum?
    Don't worry, I'm not implying this. Not at all.

    It's just because of the severeness of his action why all admins separately came to the conclusion to take the powers from him. Carlos may be great towards Pravus, however that doesn't mean he's great to the Staff. He's been complaining about the Staff before, yet he never cared to use the "Complaints about Staff" to discuss these matters. He doesn't trust the Staff and that's not beneficial for our cooperation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kite View Post
    you should atleast wait with this until foam is unbanned so he can contribute something to this discussion.
    We were already tried to contact him on MSN. So, yes we'll contact him
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